How Open Tibia Started

Seeing as there are many versions of this stories, parts of this might be inaccurate or even wrong.

Ever wonder how OTS started? Who had the first server? How did anyone even start mimicking CIP’s game?
Now im not going to summarize the whole history of Open Tibia, but focus on its inception.

We must go back to 2001, here we see the first evidence of what we call Open Tibia.

An individual by the name of Shiv’Voc wanted to have a game that was similar to Tibia. He asked another individual by the name of Tliff to make a program to extract the graphics from tibia client. (CIP Tibia was only version 6.4 back then)

After a while, Shiv got tired of the project and passed it along to Tliff. He made him admin on the SOURCEFORGE (where all open tibia related aspects were posted) so he could keep updating it. (Now it seems only Remere and Ironyt are updating it)

In 2002, the people who were running this project started posting topics that had to due with Open Tibia were posted on tibia.de aka World of Tibia. Eventually they got their own section and that’s where most of the people involved in it convened. (The open-tibia/otserv subforum on WOT later got deleted at CIP’s request)

I managed to get a hold of DeathfireD, who was one of those few people who worked on the project back then to provide his insight.

Here’s a condensed version of what I witnessed as one of the oldest OTserv members apparently still around. OTserv was a pretty small and an otherwise dead project in the old days. 1 programmer, several non full time code contributors. Only 6 or 7 of us where the “the community” on WoT back then, with the occasional new person showing up asking when a working battle system would be added. It was kind of a running joke for us. When we’d chat we’d always ask “So Tliff got a battle system yet?”, Most of the time it was just Yorick, Gecko Slayer, Nibble, Tliff, Me DeathfireD, and one or two others tossing ideas around on the forums about what OTserv should be like and how we’re gonna find programmers to keep the project alive

Even though this project called “Otserv” got started in 2001, it was only in 2004 that it started to become more stable and aspects such as a functioning spells and a battle system were made.

Eventually Tliff passed on the project lead job to a new programmer named Haktivex. It was a little after Haktivex was appointed that things dramatically changed. Fandoras, another new programmer poped up out of nowhere to show off his own version of OTserv which was coded in C#. It had a battle system with spells and a working map editor. He eventually joined Haktivex in coding OTserv. Their contributions are most definitely what saved and otherwise lit the OTserv popularity fire so to speak. Once people started hearing that there was a tibia clone with a working battle system things just blew up. Tliff and Shi’voc came back. The WoT forum went from a very few people discussing OTserv to a few thousand in a matter of weeks. Discussions where cropping up on Official Tibia forums and in Tibia itself. Tibia News (http://www.tibianews.net/) even did a few feature stories on it before Tibia started sending out emails to affiliated sites asking them to remove all things related to OTserv.

In 2004 an individual named Fandoras makes his own version of otserv in an attempt to avoid any legal action from CIP. This server was called Tibia Dark Age or TDA. Most people agree this was one of the first Tibia Servers due to its stability. However, this is debatable, and I will not focus on TDA in this post.

As time went on more contributors started to help with the coding of OTserv. More fan sites and servers lists popped up too. People started making their own Distros of OTserv, account managing tools, experiment with paid accounts, and making money from their sites. It was indeed a very innovative and profitable first 2-3 years after Hak and Fando joined OTserv. OTserv essentially went from a project about to die to a project of over several thousand users in just a few months.

So who are the people who made it possible?

About 12 years ago a small team was set up. Their soul purpose, to make an Open source tibia server that everyone could enjoy and edit to there liking. Little did they know that in a few short years their little project would blow up to be something so big as it is now.

The original staff Credits.
Shi’Voc – Coding of initial OtServ
Acrimon – Coding of initial OtServ
Tliff – Coding, some kind of project leader
TiMMit – Coding
Reebow – special support, protocol
Matkus – Front end coding
Privateer – Documentation on the protocol
Torvik – Item list
Yorick – Board mod
Decar – Fansiter
Nibbles and MMN-o – Decoration on IRC

The people above coded much of the stuff you see today. From the walking and talking to the outfits and map editing, the code was done to the best of there knowledge at the time. However after a few years the project was forced to a stand still. Manny of the staff had grown older and tired with Otserv. They moved on with their life (stopped playing games).

Stats of people updating OTS on sourceforge over the past 12 years.

( If you are wondering about other Open tibia forums before todays popular Otland, this was the order. Tibia.de —> OTcommunity —> otserv —> otfans —> otland )

Lastly, this is an intervew conducted 6 years ago with Tliff by DeathfireD

1.) To start off this Interview I’d like to ask, who was the person who
started OTserv? Thought it up and actually put the first lines of code on
paper.

Ok, sit down kids, uncle Tliff now tells a story of ancient times…
It started back in like in February 2001 when Snyder released the first
Version of his Tibia server emulator. The site is untouched and still
looks like in those times. Check it out at
http://members.fortunecity.com/snyder8/ The background on the site is
also how that version looked like. It still had the old graphics, a
style of it’s own. I was active on the “World of Tibia” forum and it’s
irc channel, so I knew Shi’Voc. He had heard about Snyder’s idea and
started an own tibia server emulator. Snyder’s version only ran on
windows and was rather limited and it was hard to work with it.
Shiv’Voc’s goal was to create a prototype for a cross platform server.
Much of the packet sniffing and decoding was done by Protos, back in the
day. I myself was a very bad programmer back then (today I’m a not that
bad, but not quite good programmer). I tried some simple stuff like
writing a small program to extract the graphics from the client (that
was damn hard with no knowledge or programming skills, believe me ;)).
After the prototype had progressed quite well – it was possible to run
around and chat, throw items around – and it was evident, that it would
really work Shi’Voc and Acrimon designed a completely new tibia server.
This was called OTServ.

2.) What’s the story, how did you and Shi’Voc start OTserv and why?
Oops, I think I accidentally answered the question a bit already. Well, I
wasn’t very much involved in starting it, I rather took over after
Shi’Voc decided to move on to other projects. I can’t tell you what his
motivation was but mine was the challenge. I hadn’t played Tibia for
quite some time and I didn’t plan to, my interest was more to get it working.

3.) So how did you, the almighty Tliff, get to be project leader of the
great OTserv?

Well, when Shi’Voc had left, Tibia was still for the “old” Tibia (Tibia
6.x). The forum on WoT got more and more empty and I thought OTServ
would die. I asked Shi’Voc if he would mind giving me admin rights on
sourceforge and I took it over and started building support for Tibia 7.x

4.) How old is OTserv exactly? Is it as old as the first OTserv CVS
entry date or older? Also how old where you when you started as project leader of OTserv?

It might be off a week or two, but it should be quite accurate. I took it over when i was 17 or 18.

5.) So what was your major goal when starting this project years ago?
Was there a goal or was it just a “Hey lets make a server” kind of deal.

Hey lets make a server!

6.) Was your goals met or are they on the verge of being met?
Well as I had no real goals I am quite impressed with the progress right
now. It’s damn cool to try to build something and then it works, that’s
so great. Having spent weeks on the code and the client is able to login
the first time, that’s great. But what has happened since then is quite
amazing.

7.) What were your first thoughts about OTserv when you noticed people
started posting about it on tibia.de?

[I don’t know if I got this question right ;), In case you mean how I
found out about otserv then I didn’t, I knew it already, I assume you
mean how I reacted on the posts in the forum]
It’s great to see people appreciate your work. It takes oftens A LOT of
work to get something working, and it’s nice when people say: “Hey, what
you did is cool.”. This really kept me working.

8.) Did you think OTserv would progress to what it is today?
I hoped, but I didn’t think so, to be honest.

9.) So since we all know your one of the oldest staff (aside from
Shivoc), how do you feel about all these new and younger people joining
OTserv?

I think it’s great. More people means more work gets done 😉 To be
honest, Shi’Voc left OTServ quite some time ago and I’m inactive for
over a year.

10.) If you could change one or two things with OTserv or OTserv’s
community what would it be and why?

Better coordination among the unofficial and official developers. Could
should be shared freely.

11.) Well last question, what do you think is in store for OTserv in the
future?

We’ll see, we’ll see. I don’t see anything big coming, more gradual
improvement.

12.) Anything you would like to say to the OTserv news readers out there?
I thought you said 11.) was the last question? Anyway… Something i
want to tell the readers?
Yeah, a lot:
Don’t pee against the wind.
During night, wear bright clothes.
NEVER pet a burning cat.

No, seriously: Don’t think about doing it, do it.

hehe well thanks Tliff for answering our questionsand shedding light on who you really are to the people that dont know you. We hope to hear more from you in the comming months.
Posted on 02 Jul 2006 by DeathfireD

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How i started with tibia movies?

I’m sure we all seen the popular tibia movies such as “Toxic Fire” or “Sorc at War”, I remember seeing them when they first came out and how awesome it would be to make something like that.

Then a few years later in 2008 I was playing Outcast, and a friend of mine named Trick Trick made a pretty killer WMV. I decided to ask him how he did it and gave making my own wmv a try. He told me the program names, and gave me some tips and walla.

I did a horrible job, I just wanted to try it. Its still uploaded on youtube lol (Back then i used alias Grimy/Death)

I went on to make a few more crappy (but not as bad) ones before starting my youtube channel.

Then after quitting outcast and moving to Oldera.net, I decided to make some practice films before I actually I made a movie. Once i got some basic knowledge of Vegas, I made a youtube channel and uploaded my first movie.

Rest was history, i made many many more. In fact, about 35 more. Since people seemed to enjoy them, and I would get decent view amount, i continued to do them.

Even though its not worth the time and effort to do them, its fun to re watch old movies you made.

If you want to know how to start, just youtube sony vegas tutorials, that how i learned. But you should not use Vegas like many people do, its not as easy as these other new programs that offer the same result.

But here are some programs that can be used.

Sony Vegas (For editing)

Adobe After Effects (For recording tibia screens)

Adobe Premire (For editing)

Snagit (For recording tibia screens)

Fraps (For recording tibia screens)

Anyway, after making a few Oldera movies more people started making tibia movies and they’re awesome at it (check them out)

http://www.youtube.com/user/ImpeccableLogic1

http://www.youtube.com/user/NanSeiNick

http://www.youtube.com/user/WorrProduction

And feel free to look at my other channels that are not really tibia related

http://www.youtube.com/user/sammynscproductions?feature=results_main

http://www.youtube.com/user/grimy1990?feature=results_main

P.S. I got 4 tibia movies on this account too;

http://vimeo.com/sammynsc

Funny chat with Ryan

If your not familiar with Ryan , please check out THIS previous post.
After more than a year of inactivity I got a hold of Ryan. And had a nice visit down memory lane 🙂

When did you open your first OTS?

Ryan says

i opened a xml server fast attk speed servers was the trend back then
i called it doria or w.e. not sure had like 60 steady players
only online for around 5 hrs a day when i was on my dads pc
back then nobdoy had dedicated servs and shit
just all home servs and trying to get on ur favorite serv asap it goes on

You once had a lvling service?

Ryan says
all goldservice/lvlingservices were scams
as they were always paid through daopay
once i had my servs making money
i could pay for anything
a botnet, a hacker, programmers etc
and was around 15-16 so just wanna be internethero and pulled off a good job i think

You spread yout botnet through the Oldera client?

Ryan says
some people i just hated and i would let them know
no was a false rport on asprate’s ipchanger
which still reports having trojans in it
cuz of the auto updater
botnet was growing via warez forums posting so called cracks and purchasing more bots from more experienced herders

You Paid for your botnet? Who did you Ddos?

Ryan says
yea 100mbps lines have used them a while back
on oldtibia and some 7.4/7.6 from some gay
not sure
realsoft
but just ddosed him because he noted rules on his website “the law is u dont ddos or i get police on u blabla”
ddosed tibianic, realots, otland a few times
etc
for concurrention but purely for fun

Were the Oldera files, the CIP stolen files?

Ryan says
partly yes
started more at narozia
there used to be a old otbm released
without monsters quests and shit, cipsoft’s map
so we began tracking it
thats how narozia started 900 online average players
so we got konrad (remere)
converting all the shit
the exe was made by
remere
open tibia svn 0.7.3
konrad owner tibianic
i was about starting classicalia with him but some things got in the way
yes his files are based on my files
he just perfected everything, props to him though

If they are not 100% CIP stolen files, how did he get all the minors details right?

Ryan says
partly perfecting himself
and prolly getting files from one and another
sim_one from simone’s mapeditor owns all files
toor also from realots
and remere a part of that
so one of those gave some files too him
most likely
that are only real owners of cipsoft files
as i recall
but cipsoft files are hard to use raw, we had to convert all npcs for an instance
as they were in cipsoft’s formatting thus not useable out of the box

Who are the original owners of the files?

Ryan says
toor original owner
dennis
or well cipsoft is original owner but toor had access to a gameserver back in the days
when everything loginserv etc was hosted on 1/2 server
most likely via via
toor has knowledge to actually extract files and such
infamous gm/or inside guy most likely didnt know shit bout computers

sim_one signed a legal contract
not distributing the files though

Why do you believe people will buy your files if they have a back door?

Ryan says
im not forcing or begging for someone to buy
buying is under my terms and ofc i know about my name
they are valueable files

You plan on coming back anytime soon?

Ryan says
no not rly
i can host for people
but not really into creating and maintaining server
as in fixing mapbugs npcs smallbugs etc

You still got access to that dedicenter in NL? You used snort to protect your former servers?

Ryan says
yea
snort used to be on a server filteringall connections
to main serv
back in narozia days due lotsa ddosing
now its software on the mainserv
blocking some dos scriptkiddie shits
but if someone wants he can get the serv down

How did you get all this technical knowledge?

Ryan says
been into computers since ive been 9 or so
i was 15 yrs old making 100 eur a day
not good for a child
i dont value money properly atm
dont work because i dont feel like cuz i used to get moneys for free

The money from OTS?

Ryan says
yea
narozia was peak days
900 users online a day
if we did offer we d made 350eur~
like 50% discount
all by daopay, when daopay still paid normal payout

How did you get started with hacking?

i was 8 hrs a day online 12 yrs straight in weekends
just got in touch with specific people
some russian fellows
dont do hackkiddie forums its a load of bs
with only trojans on it they first ddosed narozia
asking kinda ransom or w.e. u call it
to not ddos, and it was a big ddos

Ryan says
we started as a kinda enemy relation
then i started using his services
and get more involved etc
still talk him occasianelly

You got banned from OTland for ddosing it?

Ryan says
no just for being dick and most wanted on otland
all threads i started was flamewar

Sammy NSC says
mind if i make this convo public?

Ryan says
nop
prolly they wont believe its me though

Sammy NSC says
why not?

Ryan says
dunno
nobody ever believes
im real ryan balabla

Full msn convo: http://pastebin.com/pfgT2ZXp